What can you take on in a Rifter?

Cheese999 · Joined: 25 Oct 2006 Posts: 320

After losing my first Taranis to various stupidity I decided to go with somthing cheaper to really learn how to PvP in small ships ( I know how to scan, scout and tackle, but as for provideing all the DPS...)

So I bought 60 Rifters + fittings.
http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/0709/Rifter_Mainia.jpg
(Thats 30 of them. The other 30 are up near Syndicate)

Anyway, I've lost the first 5 so far (and been podded each time...) to:
A ratting Enyo (got him into structure then he got to close)
A ratting Raven in Stain and his buddie in a PvP cruise raven (I had the ratter into structure. EM rats FTW)
A Manticore (lesson learned, cruise missiles can hit me fine)
An arty sabre
A Tempest and a huggin double team (I was being silly and they were occupied with a Raven)
http://kb.metaforge.co.uk/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=59807

Anyway, what I really need to know is what can I realisticly engage and have a chance of killing? What tactics should I use when engaging targets?

Orestes Umnon · Joined: 24 Dec 2006 Posts: 2851

Paging Kal'Kalagan to thread 8342, paging Kal'Kalagan...
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Lyta Reimalken · Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 6:30 pm Post subject:

My totally t1 rifter has eaten every frigate and inteceptor going, along with a cruiser or two that though webs were 'optional'. Past that, I dont know...
Rifters as a part of a frigate gang however is different Smile

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Murukan · No he can't. Joined: 28 Jun 2006 Posts: 7331

you should be able to take out enyo's no prob if you can use barrage. Rifters eat ceptors and other frigs pretty easily also if set up right. Only thing to look out for is ac punishers really.
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Raivi · Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:40 am Post subject:

The 400mm and MPAC is a little bit better than the 200 and DC. Otherwise your setup is a solid standby. With the 400 setup I think it's either hard or impossible to fit a nos so you need to use a Rocket launcher.
iirc Kal'Kalagan relies on inties getting cocky and entering range so he can web them. Once he has that, pulsing the MWD and orbiting with the occasional manual flying tweak to keep low transversal should do the trick.
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MasterDecoy · Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 7:18 am Post subject:

prolly not worth another thread, so which boat should i be flying if i wanted to do the same thing as the op, but im gall spec'd?

tristan? surely not...
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Lyta Reimalken · Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 2:01 pm Post subject:

Frools · Joined: 25 Oct 2006 Posts: 11590 Location: London

how the hell did you manage to get podded everytime Laughing

Cheese999 · Joined: 25 Oct 2006 Posts: 320

bellevegasj · Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 3:28 am Post subject:

I attempted to do this also, but gave up. I have so much trouble finding targets no matter what ship I'm in. It seems as if people just don't undock unless they're grouped with 15 other mates. I might have to give it another shot, because I really need real world PvP experience. SiSi just doesn't seem to help enough for me.

Rifters are so cheap that I would think that attacking anything would be good practice, but I'm probably wrong.
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Danthomir · Joined: 25 Feb 2007 Posts: 156

As you get faster at scanning, you find more targets - when you're slow a lot of people safe/cloak/dock up before you realize what's up.

Knowledge of the local area also helps. "This offshoot here is claimed by a bunch of carebear corps, expect camps on the bottleneck and dim-witted miners in the protected systems." "This area is full of gangs, be ready for company when engaging stuff." "Here there be carebears." That kinda stuff.

James Lyrus · Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 3:33 pm Post subject: