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PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:27 am    Post subject: response Reply with quote

Yes the holders are joining fleets, and still leading them as well, numbers aren't what they used to be though, somewhat because ops aren't announced but are random, but more due to morale and lose of some pvpers most likely.

here is an sbu kill mail, will give you an idea of some numbers.

http://www.lf-eve.com/lfakb/?a=kill_related&kll_id=35860

Was a pretty spur of the moment op, fc's didn't get word of sbu's going up till about an hour 30 minutes left on them, and there was so argueing going on for a bit.

quick battle report:

Formed spur of the moment sniper fleet with about an hour fifteen minutes to go till sbu's went online.

Took a good bit to get conventional numbers sufficient to counter there fleet, as they had about 11 carriers and an aeon along with with 50 conventionals or so. We started to form around titan with around 30 minutes left on sbu with about 80ish people.

At that moment, and I-RED guy convoed me, said that IRED was running a drake fleet (about 25 strong, not much tackle) for their alliances birthday, and was nextdoor in KW. We decided to try to use them as bait to get uk fleet on gate, and tried to set up a decent trap.

We got cov ops in posistion, couldn't get dictors over there in time to be on grid for prober, what few we had, so we just had to try to time it right.

With about 5 minutes left on sbu, we jumped i red gang in and had them engage kw sbu while we watched uk fleet on pos and waited to titan bridge in.

As sbu's went online uk fleet aligned and warped kw gate, we popped cyno and . . . no bridge. Don't know what was wrong, I wasn't titan pilot, but it took 25 seconds for bridge to go up after cyno was broadcasted.

By that time Uk gang had already landed on gate with carriers and snipers at range, of drake blob.

Drake blob had lost dictors and a couple of other ships, so we had no bubbles on them, we warped to gate anyway, but by the time we were dropping out they were warping out to pos.

Proceeded to kill sbu's, while Uk guys put their ships in carriers and podded home.

Pretty fail on our part, but meh whatever, local was respectful at least for a change.



P.S: Fatal ascension put sbu's up with out telling anyone from what I heard, just doing their own thing.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know this is asking for a lot but is there a sort of summary of the main players on the CVA side? I'm guessing CVA, paxton, severence but I must admit I don't know any of the others.

What headway has UK and -A- made so far?

Have CVA and co truely dropped numbers? Does anyone have a definitive pet A was 400 members and now is down to 36 or something?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The main people in the Proviblock fleets are:

sev3rence , paxton, Libertas Fidelitas, fidelas constans and CVA. Other alliances just seem to provide under 10 pilots per fleet so are irrelevent.

Other spaceholding alliances in providence who don't contribute much in the way of numbers: sylph, aegis militia, cold steel alliance, veneratio venator alliance. Even CVA numbers in fleets has dropped heavily, and have gone from the bulk of Provibloc fleets to adding similar numbers to their allies.

Headway wise: UK hold 9uy station (taken from CVA), AAA hold D-G station (taken from Paxton) and UK also hold J6QB station (taken from Sylph). No serious attempt at reclaiming any station has taken place since UK/AAA claimed sovereignty.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the battle report, nice to see what went on.

The holders are certainly joining fleets, the fleet that attacked our SBUs for example was drawn from 14 different alliances and included 2 sylph pilots. Its nice to see sylph defending their own space Wink The battle in J6 the other day had a similar maybe slightly smaller turnout from the holders, but PGL is right, compared to a year ago the numbers are way down, to the extent that UK as a single 1.2k man alliance can in some circumstances go 1 on 1 with the entire powerbloc and hold our own.

Of course the "no sov warfare" orders might have something to do with that, or the fact that the most recent fights have occured outside of providence, but its still quite encouraging.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xen wrote:
UK as a single 1.2k man alliance can go 1 on 1 with the entire powerbloc and hold our own.


Comedy hour on shc?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cippalippus wrote:
Xen wrote:
UK as a single 1.2k man alliance can go 1 on 1 with the entire powerbloc and hold our own.


Comedy hour on shc?


At the current state of affairs in Providence, UK has managed 200+ man fleets, and that is well-composed fleets with very few retarded ships and stupid fittings. During this time Providence has not shown the capability to match it (excluding the D-G capital bashing), be it of their own choice (avoid big battles) or lack of morale and people signing up.

EDITED out something that could be seen as trolling/mocking.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cippalippus wrote:
Xen wrote:
UK as a single 1.2k man alliance can go 1 on 1 with the entire powerbloc and hold our own.


Comedy hour on shc?


I did think twice about that sentance and did put the "under certain circumstances" caveat there, but I appreciate that we arent going to be able to beat them all the time without support from our allies (who have been great). What im getting at is that the situation from our point of view is much better looking these days than it has been for a few years, CVA used to be able to outnumber us without picking up the phone, but these days it requires a sizeable chunk of their allies to counter us.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As the CEO of VERDA does not have access to GBBS, she has asked me to post this for her.



Today a VERDA operative struck at the heart of Sev3rance operations, wreaking havoc to their economic backbone. Our operative, who cannot be named for security reasons, caused BILLIONS of ISKs worth of damage to the CVA slave alliance, severely damaging their combat capabilities and adding another black mark to their already floundering morale. Working with Star Fraction free captains, the VERDA operative used his privileged position in the IronPig corporation to eject all of the ships from several Ship Maintenance Arrays at their starbase orbiting moon twelve of the eighth planet in the KBP7-G system. The results of which can be seen in this image, as taken by a Star Fraction pilot’s camera drone who was on site as the situation developed.

Using superior intelligence and tactics, the Fractionite pilots purloined several ships from the stricken tower including a Typhoon class battleship, Harbinger and Myrmidon class battlecruisers, and a Devoter class heavy interdictor. Alas, even the superior skills of the Fractionite pilots could not stop the slaves of Sev3rance from hindering the Devoter’s escape, which was destroyed by CVA slaves desperately scrabbling to keep a hold on the RAPIDLY ESCALATING situation. With a ragtag -7- fleet now on the field, and the operative subdued for the moment, the brave Fractionite pilots who had already secured the ships returned in bombers, equipped to cleanse the field of the squabbling foe.

Once again seizing the initiative as the VERDA operative managed to disrupt the pigdogs attempt at asset protection the bomber squadron struck, bravely launching munitions into the tightly packed cluster of both piloted and unpiloted ships with no fear for their lives. Their lives were not sacrificed in vain, however, as this image shows. The glorious pilots of the revolution had caused untold BILLIONS worth of damage to the group, completely wrecking many of the ships that had been left floating in the void, their pilot’s fittings clearly suboptimal against the munitions laid against them.

Leaving the starbase situation in the capable hands of the free captains, the operative then proceeded to lift from the coffers of the pigdogs, securing at least half a billion ISK a daring snatch and grab attempt. Sev3rance morale continues to be at an all time low, with several more prominent members of their oligarchy venting their rage at their massed ranks:

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fire elf > Fuck twats..

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GanSho > those metagaming fukkers will pay for it.


VERDA military experts are not sure what metagaming fukkers are, but our operatives will continue their eternal vigilance in the war against the holders of Providence.

VERDA will prevail!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could have done a ton more damage if you had actually planned something worthwhile. Razz

Funny as hell though. Storing ships in POS'es which bitter Titan pilots have access to, whoop.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So what is going on in providence now?
I see the Aegis constellation dropped sov?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe they are reforming
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems like a rather silly time to drop the alliance just to reform it, and the benefits of doing so look rather limited. Is this a case of a leadership schism?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is anyone activelly attempting to exploit the sovdrop? Or what is going on with it?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's an open invitation "hey come take our station systems", lolprovi. We'll see tomorrow...
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:19 am    Post subject: fail Reply with quote

Ok - recap on the aegis milita fail.

Sometime today, Aegis Militia decided that they didn't want to be Aegis Milita anymore, they wanted to be Retribution Incarna or something like that.

So they said, "hey, why wait, lets just drop alliance now and join new one, some dev told me that sov would transfer, so fuck it."

So sov dropped, and AM posted on CAOD and such that they were becoming some new alliance.

When other holders asked them what happened and if they were putting tcu's up, they assured us that they were. They must have confused anchored tcu's with onlineing tcu's.

At this point I logged off, the amount of fail was just to much.

------- Battle report time ------

I log back on 3 hours later to find that -a- and Uk have moved BS in to z-r, and are anchoring tcu's every where. We have formed a so called sniper battleship fleet in u-h, and it was on the way to z-r.

I grabbed my Apoc and headed over and caught up with them in 3kb. -A- was posistioned on 3kb gate in z-r at sniper range, while we were in 3kb.

-A- and friends at that time had around 45-60 local, about 50 on gate, around 30+ snipers and rest support. We at the mean time had formed a massive sniper fleet, consisting of 85 proud providence members, but only 15 proud providence battleships, typical Sad. However, we only had 60 in 3kb, the rest, were aegis milita guys in z-r at pos.

We then moved to 0 on 3kb gate, and while contemplating exactly how to break in, -a- and friends for some reason, warped to the 18x gate. We immediatley jumped in and linked up at pos with AM guys.

Then -a- uk guys warp to tcu at 0, we try to posistion cov ops for a little bit, then we remember that we have 15 snipers and rest bc's or short range bs, so we just warp to 0 instead.

Bubble goes up, primaries were slow as fc was immediatley popped, and the guy that took over was in a cov ops.

Both sides burn away from each other in opposite directions, so fight does eventually begin to occur at sniper ranges, eventually we hold the field.

We then stay on field and kill TCU, while -a- and Uk burn around the pocket and out of provi to reship.

Meanwhile a 30 man Primary. gang has moved into z-r and is camping the 3kb gate at 0 with a random bc and hac gang to cut of reinforcements. At this point im fc'ing, and I just warp our fleet on top of them at 0. Killed a lot, didn't lose much, they eventually ran.

Having finished TCU, we jump into 3kb to start taking that TCU down. At this point, Uk has anchored tcu's in 3kb, 3d, and I-M, all with over 7 hours to go.

While taking down the TCU, we get reports of another UK and -a- sniper fleet coming to us, around 40, mostly bs. At this point though we are around 90, still at most, 25 snipers.

-a- and uk enter 3kb and warp to a sniper spot off of us at tcu, and we just sort of stare at each other for a bit. We try to volley a few things to no affect as we have very few snipers, they eventually get a bubble on a group of guys, and kill around 5 of them, and we warp off. -A- then regrouped at a safe, so we warped back to tcu and set up probers, though they never really got going till later.

-a- then warps back to us at 90km, I yell at tackle to go get on top of them, it takes forever, but eventually we do get a dramiel in the middle of them and warp tackle there. Bubble goes up on the end of their fleet, and we catch around 7 or 8 bs plus some support.

However, -a- was all in it for the fights all night, and they regrouped and warped back to us at sniper range again. This time tackle is much faster and we get a few more before they warp off.

They do this a couple of times at 250 km, and as our probers were finally getting going, we catch a few a few times, sometimes we catch none, but we were slowly killing a couple every time.

Eventually -a- decided that blob fights aren't good fights, and decide to go home.

We then finish killing off the remaining tcu's, and have the original AM alliance put their tcu's back up.

The proud close range sniper fleet of provi then retired for the night, and AM tcu's are now onlineing.

In a night full of fail, at least there were kills to go around. Thank you -a- for continueing to fight, even though they were outnumbered at times 3 to 1.

Here are initial battle reports, though i'd imagine not all KM's are posted at time of this posting, as i'm writing this immediately after breaking down fleet.

Z-R:

http://www.lf-eve.com/lfakb/?a=kill_related&kll_id=36084
http://www.a-kills.com/?a=kill_related&kll_id=362157
Uk kb is classified still
http://www.paxton-federation.info/killboard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=58152

3KB (battle reports suck, as someof the -a- guys who didn't die also didn't get on km's, numbers are missing.):

http://www.lf-eve.com/lfakb/?a=kill_related&kll_id=36129
http://www.a-kills.com/?a=kill_related&kll_id=362215
Uk KB fail
http://www.paxton-federation.info/killboard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=58147
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