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Sparith

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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:27 pm Post subject: Assault Frigate Boost |
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| Quote: | One of the upcoming changes we previously mentioned on the features & ideas forum and discussed with the CSM which we want to try out on singularity and gather public feedback on is a boost to assault frigates.
We will add a 15% afterburner speed boost bonus per racial frigate level. This means each assault frigate will get a 75% bonus since racial frigate V is a pre-requisite to fly the ship. The intention is that the assault frigates will be able to close range on their targets to bring their damage to bear and increase their survivability on account of their increased speed and reduced signature radius factor whilst using afterburners.
This is not a final solution and we are aware of related issues such as rocket performance but we have been impressed with the results so far internally that we want to move to the next phase and see what you all think.
This change should hit singularity over the next few days and your constructive feedback is welcome! |
Link : http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1179512&page=1
Queue the nay sayers! Speed is the one thing I wasn't happy about with my jag  |
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Filingo

Joined: 13 Jan 2009 Posts: 859 Location: HEY BABY, AWAKE FROM YOUR ASLEEP / D-F-C
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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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The Monkeysphere

Joined: 07 Jul 2007 Posts: 3179 Location: Estonia / Pandemic Legion (NEWS corp)
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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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This is really fucking dumb. The whole 'boost AFs' that has been going on for ages is fucking dumb. Why the fuss about AFs over any other terrible ship anyway?
Essentially this means that a decent AF will have little to no trouble killing a large part of the currently available T2 cruisers save Amarr/Minmatar recons and a decently flown 180mm Vaga (or any Vaga who starts at 20km) and a webbing Muninn. Scram, web, orbit at 500m at LUDICROUS SPEED and kablammo!
I guess that it won't matter too much though, seeing how most current inty pilots are very bad (and then there's those like Garmon, sakana and others who could probably take down a shitfit carrier in a Taranis) who will most likely cross over to AFs.
Still, seeing how there's next to no way to kill one in a lot of ships unless you have a mighty number of light drones, a web and hopefully a neut or two they'll be way too annoying for what they're worth in isk, and how little piloting skill they need if this goes through as planned. _________________
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Forte

Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 6562 Location: Angry Mustellid [WEAZL], Minmatar FW
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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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Fourth AF bonus? In MY EVE? _________________
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Celada1

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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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Unless they give the retribution 2 med slots it will always suck. _________________
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Pattern

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Sparith

Joined: 16 Nov 2008 Posts: 278 Location: Where the old come to die
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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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So can we get a math wiz to shit out numbers for us? (I failed Algebra the first time ) Ballpark figure of new base speed of an ass. frig running a AB with and without overheat. |
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Xen

Joined: 19 Mar 2009 Posts: 3832 Location: Trolling WoW
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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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With this and the rig changes the wolf just became my favorite roaming ship. _________________ Xennith [UNITY]
The only reason we dont use trinary is that the abbreviation "megatits per second" is too close to the bone for some. |
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Vanden

Joined: 02 Nov 2007 Posts: 1084 Location: CCP Apologist Strike Force HQ
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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Did some speculative purchasing a few days ago, fucking yes. |
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The Monkeysphere

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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Celada1 wrote: | | Unless they give the retribution 2 med slots it will always suck. |
They should give it a scram range, web range, dampener, painter and fucking tracking disruptor bonus and leave the rest as it is, because by god it's one of CCP's best player-griefing creations. _________________
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Sparith

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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Vanden wrote: | | Did some speculative purchasing a few days ago, fucking yes. |
Market manipulation is a go. |
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Xen

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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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wolf before: 411, 987 with afterburner. (+168.25%) so an extra 75% of that is +294.4% (if the bonus is multiplied in, and 243.25% if its added).
so wolf after will do (411 / 100) *294 = 1208 _________________ Xennith [UNITY]
The only reason we dont use trinary is that the abbreviation "megatits per second" is too close to the bone for some. |
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Celada1

Joined: 26 Feb 2008 Posts: 2454 Location: Destructive influence [DICE]
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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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| The Monkeysphere wrote: | | Celada1 wrote: | | Unless they give the retribution 2 med slots it will always suck. |
They should give it a scram range, web range, dampener, painter and fucking tracking disruptor bonus and leave the rest as it is, because by god it's one of CCP's best player-griefing creations. |
I honestly dont give a rats ass what they do i just want a second med slot on it. _________________
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Tony O
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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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| The Monkeysphere wrote: | This is really fucking dumb. The whole 'boost AFs' that has been going on for ages is fucking dumb. Why the fuss about AFs over any other terrible ship anyway?
Essentially this means that a decent AF will have little to no trouble killing a large part of the currently available T2 cruisers save Amarr/Minmatar recons and a decently flown 180mm Vaga (or any Vaga who starts at 20km) and a webbing Muninn. Scram, web, orbit at 500m at LUDICROUS SPEED and kablammo!
I guess that it won't matter too much though, seeing how most current inty pilots are very bad (and then there's those like Garmon, sakana and others who could probably take down a shitfit carrier in a Taranis) who will most likely cross over to AFs.
Still, seeing how there's next to no way to kill one in a lot of ships unless you have a mighty number of light drones, a web and hopefully a neut or two they'll be way too annoying for what they're worth in isk, and how little piloting skill they need if this goes through as planned. |
Wouldn't that (the bolded bit) require a significant agility buff on top of the proposed speed boost? _________________
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Haffrage

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Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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Hacs should get afterburner bonuses too just to shit all over the boost af crowd. _________________
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