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Wesley Baird



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 7:26 pm    Post subject: Deklein - Politics Reply with quote

Our good friend Fred0 posted the following chat log on CAOD:

Quote:
Endeva > just had talk with molle
Endeva > tri is ****ing iditos:D
Endeva > omgogm
Endeva > we will leave deklain
Endeva > take regions in south
Endeva > moons/stations
Endeva > start with scalding pass
Endeva > tri is moving
Endeva > rigjht now here
Endeva > we need to save towers
Endeva > and move out
Endeva > and start taking soth
Endeva > cos
Endeva > speak with molle
Endeva > they will kill
Endeva > we take
Endeva > yes
Endeva > **** this
Endeva > tri/atlas/nc/tcf now
Endeva > we should let
Endeva > tri
Endeva > to take everything
Endeva > withtouh fight


Endeva on his alt BruceLee CRO posts later in the same thread.

Quote:
even if tat imaginationary chat is tru whats wrong there???moving to south is wrong or what? i dont get it.
you need whole north to push us out / inviting tcf to help you and alsoooo to not rememeber asking tri/atlast 2 ttimes offering them part of deklain to help you remove us faster? and at the end they accept it thinking you wont touch them but you will backstabb them after you finish with us. everyone knows that you were telling them that you are going to south to give them idea about resseting us and taking on us then when they jumped out their caps to x-7 you tell kia and rest of fail allainces to take vale while you are moving to roir with them to take bob hiend moons in pb.you are the only one here who are playing mind games and imaginating things and i dont have time for that. gl to everyone in north

ps. dont think this i whining thread or something i dont care about numbers you have and we always fighted with you or anyone else who brought more as you can see by losses on our kb.i dont care who you are and what numbers you have if i see fun in killing you il stay and you can bring 5x more. for me this is game and i dont care about anything else.


Although the source is CAOD, it is actually interesting politics which I believe fits with this forum (War & Politics).

Both Endeva and Fred0 have good reputations about being straightforward and honest, but one of them is lieing about the authenticity of this chatlog, since Fred0 claims its true, and Endeva says its "imaginationary"

Id be interested to hear more from these two actors or others on this subject since it has all come out in a very public way.

As was mentioned in that thread and in the Fountain thread TCF has moved back into the area, with more than sub-capitals.

All in all a very exciting time for the North! Apart from those poor pilots camping the same gate in RIOR for hours at a time during the last week, I understand they don't find things that exciting judging from what they have been saying.
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sakana



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the alt reply seems to confirm that goodfellas are leaving Dek, whether or not the first chat log is true. but like you say, caod and all that....


endeva is in goodfellas right? or have i got this all wrong.....
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even though Endeva uses the word "imaginationary" with regards to that chat log it sort of sounds like it hit a nerve.

But yeah, it would be good to hear from Spymaster Fre0 himself.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sakana wrote:
the alt reply seems to confirm that goodfellas are leaving Dek, whether or not the first chat log is true. but like you say, caod and all that....


endeva is in goodfellas right? or have i got this all wrong.....
Endeva is in charge of goodfellas.
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Kai page



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gods are deciding tonight if there moving out sooo.... :p
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Endeva = BruceLee Cro since when?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Celada1 wrote:
Endeva = BruceLee Cro since when?


That is him. I think he got banned for some comments about someone's mother Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the chatlog is true, however I think Fred0 did butcher the log to point that it could easily be claimed as a fake (come on boyo post full logs and maybe bold the best parts). Endeva in parts appeared to aknowledge it's real and then immediately say it's fake.

For the spectators sake I hope they stay and have a bash. They have been sitting on a lot of moons for a while now so if they fail in Deklein (it's probably more of a when really) then they should have plenty of backup isk to rebuild in Scalding Pass if they do go to move down south.

That is of course unless the rumours are true about ceo's pocketing the proffits.

Anyway I wish Gods the very best in whatever they do.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I removed around 8 lines from it. 3 of it was Endeva rambling about TCF and then there was some chatter from a nobody that just wasn't relevant.

We don't know if they'll leave or not but that chatlog is what Endeva said.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe they didn't want those 'good' fights anyway.


What i find really weird is TCF back to North... or is just an roaming gang before AAA does the next move? And Jumpclone?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[CEI]Fred0 wrote:
I removed around 8 lines from it. 3 of it was Endeva rambling about TCF and then there was some chatter from a nobody that just wasn't relevant.

We don't know if they'll leave or not but that chatlog is what Endeva said.


I for one would be interested to see the TCF bits Very Happy

Thanks for the comments Fred0. We do live in interesting times in the North.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wesley Baird wrote:
[CEI]Fred0 wrote:
I removed around 8 lines from it. 3 of it was Endeva rambling about TCF and then there was some chatter from a nobody that just wasn't relevant.

We don't know if they'll leave or not but that chatlog is what Endeva said.


I for one would be interested to see the TCF bits Very Happy

Thanks for the comments Fred0. We do live in interesting times in the North.


deva said it when drunk aparently, crazy romanians <3
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He's croatian
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can summarize this whole thing in a few lines. If what I heard is true Wink

Triatlas wanted some good space(not vale obviously) and goes out to shoot Gods.
NC said, whatevah just don't attack our POS and we leave yours in vale alone for some time till you get Deklein. Then NC can go play with BoB.

Then the NC and Tri folks who arranged stuff got fucked over by fred0 cause he promised his new buttbuddies TCF Deklein.
Now some MM folks are sad cause they can't play with Tri as during the old days.
They will now be stuck in Tribute defending mining POS forever.
Tri is sad cause Twinky left for the real army instead of TRI ARMY.
And Eddz is still special. Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i don't see the problem. Tri is getting a fight either way. be it gods or tcf or nc.

although it's an interesting question if RZR's decision (support TCF over MM & Tri agreements) will cause a fracture within the NC's integrity
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