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blkmajik

Joined: 25 Jun 2007 Posts: 61 Location: ZTKDE - Caldari Militia
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Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 9:30 pm Post subject: Factional Warfare in general |
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Can we start a new FW thread? All the info here is stale. A quick update on what's going on. Admins, if you want to split this into the start of a new thread, it might be a good idea Ok then - Major
Caldari KB: http://killboard.caldarimilitia.org/
Gallente KB: http://www.quafeultra.com/killboard/
Amarr KB: http://www.amarr-empire.net/killboard/
Minmatar KB: http://www.minmatar-militia.org/kb/
Right now, the Militias are getting at least as many, if not more kills per week than most 0.0 alliances of equal or greater size. It's a GREAT place for any PVP addicts who don't like to put up with alliance politics and baggage. There's always a fleet forming or near by, and always someone to shoot. Caldari have recently been the most significant winner of both the battle of the killboards and for system occupancy. This is obviously because they have Jita
The Amarr and Minmatar situations seem to have gone somewhat stale, and many of the major players in both groups have started moving to the primary Caldari/Gallente fighting grounds. Gunship Diplomacy, the primary corp in the Amarr militia since its first days, recent took this a step further and actually joined the Caldari Militia.
The local pirate factions still play a significant role. Some, such as Swiggwaffe, have taken on the role of paid Mercenaries for the struggling Gallente. Swigg and Beyond Divinity can almost always be found in or around Tama, along with dozens of other smaller pirate gangs deeper into FW space. |
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JustinMead

Joined: 09 Mar 2008 Posts: 1044 Location: Snigg - PL
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Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 11:34 pm Post subject: Re: Factional Warfare in general |
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| blkmajik wrote: | | The local pirate factions still play a significant role. Some, such as Swiggwaffe, have taken on the role of paid Mercenaries for the struggling Gallente. |
say whaaat?
I can assure you sniggwaffe has not been paid by the Gallante Militia  _________________ Elektrea
| Quote: | | Using them when you have numbers advantage (i.e. today) or close to even it's just lame. |
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Slazenger Harris

Joined: 28 Dec 2007 Posts: 774 Location: Sniggerdly, Pandemic Legion
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Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | The local pirate factions still play a significant role. Some, such as Swiggwaffe, have taken on the role of paid Mercenaries for the struggling Gallente. |
Wheres my cut?  _________________
[11:27] <%Pathetic> Even skynet starts small. |
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Verite Rendition
Joined: 11 Jun 2008 Posts: 410 Location: F.R.E.E.E. Agent
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blkmajik

Joined: 25 Jun 2007 Posts: 61 Location: ZTKDE - Caldari Militia
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Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 2:18 am Post subject: |
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Can you clear up your relationship between Swigg and some of the Gal corps then? I thought it was pretty clear you were working with them. I mean, you camp gates together and don't shoot each other, and have standings to not get shot at their towers (not sure, but I thought I saw Swigg inside a Wolfy POS once). And are you guys gonna finish up in Derelik any time soon? It's too quiet in Tama and you guys drop the best loot  |
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JustinMead

Joined: 09 Mar 2008 Posts: 1044 Location: Snigg - PL
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Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 2:41 am Post subject: |
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Swiggs, and I'm willing to put isk down for this statement, have never blued a Gallante FW corp. And I highly doubt they were camping gates with them.
Swiggs have a very short blue list. PL, SoT, and one other major lowsec alliance (sorry but I can't remember ).
There move is gonna be a semi-permanent move, so you won't see them anytime soon  _________________ Elektrea
| Quote: | | Using them when you have numbers advantage (i.e. today) or close to even it's just lame. |
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Nexus Kinnon
Joined: 04 Jul 2007 Posts: 960 Location: Genos // HYDRA RELOADED BITCH FUCK YEAH
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Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 2:46 am Post subject: |
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I know for a fact that SWIGG has worked with WOLFY in the past, mainly because I was on TS when they were discussing it
afaik it was only temporary but I didn't spend much time in swigg _________________
Sig made by Prometheus Exenthal, he owns~ |
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JustinMead

Joined: 09 Mar 2008 Posts: 1044 Location: Snigg - PL
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Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 3:21 am Post subject: |
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well fuck me, I stand corrected
Even when I was in swigg I had no idea they were in the G-Fed  _________________ Elektrea
| Quote: | | Using them when you have numbers advantage (i.e. today) or close to even it's just lame. |
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Deja Thoris
Joined: 30 Mar 2007 Posts: 577 Location: Invicta - Lowsec meanie etc.
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Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 3:22 am Post subject: |
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Invicta are trying our hardest to thin the numbers of FW since it seems like the gallente and caldari militia are just engaged in an elaborate dance designed to avoid each other while ensuring maximum blobbage. We're out and out pirates at the moment since we gave up the fight to maintain our sec statuses.
We wardec'd dark rising a while back who at the time were a 200 strong gallente FW corp who move around in large numbers. They generally use snipey bs while we being blinkies need to keep the rr going to live so theres a lot of cat and mouse while we try to land right on them and they try their hardest to stop that happening.
Our pew pew relationship started here http://www.pawsofevil.com/kb/?a=kill_related&kll_id=19153 when they cynoed in a bunch of carriers in a slightly ill fated move into costolle. We were just returning from a bs roam and I poked a scout in their to see a woefully placed cyno. Sure enough their 6 or so carriers bounced hither and yon so we tackled one and managed to get people into carriers in time to get some rr going and down a nidhoggur. A little later they engaged us on the costolle gate where we ganked a couple, sure enough their carriers landed so we deagged and jumped out. They chased us to the next gate where 6 or so bs cunningly tried to pin us in from the other side. We engaged them and killed them and a cyno went up, their carriers jumped in to kill us. Once again we deagged and jumped out losing a bs since we couldn't rep the damage.
At this point we thought they'd be fun to wardec but the snipey bs kept presenting a problem to us since we are fairgame to everyone else and we generally have to engage DR and gall FW together. CH also got in on the fun and wardec'd them also. We decided it would be a good idea to try to provoke an engagement with inties and carriers only trusting the inties to tackle and the carriers to keep each other alive while delivering a bit of fighter spankage. We had the inties loiter in OMS on the villore gate while about 50 people snuggled up at the wartarget POS. Eventually a wartarget BS jumped into our inty fleet and got into trouble, then all the people at the POS warped in to snipe our inties. We opened up a cyno, dropped carriers and tackled all we could.
http://www.pawsofevil.com/kb/?a=kill_related&kll_id=19858
This was an awesome fight (for us) marred by huge lag which gave 2 of our carrier pilots cold sweats since we couldnt lock them for rr and a neutral gang of close range neuting bs decided to come to shoot at us at the same time.
Last notable engagement was after the wardec ended and we were roaming near OMS in a logistics heavy group. Gallente militia decided to engage us. http://www.pawsofevil.com/kb/?a=kill_related&kll_id=20778 Numbers are a bit off on this since we only lost 2 ships, I'm pretty sure they had at least double our numbers but thankfully they spent most of their time killing this rupture http://www.pawsofevil.com/kb/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=20770 which took over 80k damage
In general theres lots of pew pew to be had but my feeling is generally that we have to beef up quite a lot and move around either quickly or in large numbers or we will be stomped by the larger gangs. Having chased both caldari and gallente militias around an awful lot it seems that caldari go to oms and wave their cocks about until it seems like gallente are about to fight and then they turn and run back to nourv. Then gallente go to tama and do the epeen wave until the caldari get it together to chase them back to villore. This back and forth should take place to Benny Hill music. Stragglers die and sometime when both militia fuck up they actually end up fighting, as if by accident.
I have no idea about the plexing aspect of FW, it seems to me to be boring and pointless and I don't think there are too many people entertaining themselves with it atm. They should make it so opposing factions cannot dock in each other stations, that would be a tangible reward for plexing and would stop dockfags somewhat.
Thats my 2 cents on FW as I see it. Thanks to DR and the militias, you keep us on our toes and give us something to shoot, I hope we do the same for you ) |
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blkmajik

Joined: 25 Jun 2007 Posts: 61 Location: ZTKDE - Caldari Militia
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Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 4:13 am Post subject: |
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| JustinMead wrote: | | Swiggs, and I'm willing to put isk down for this statement, have never blued a Gallante FW corp |
| JustinMead wrote: | well fuck me, I stand corrected |
can i has isk now plz?
So will Invicta be operating as old-fashioned pirates in FW space again any time soon, Thoris? I personally only ran into you guys when you'd leave some bait and try hot dropping a dozen carriers on a bunch of t1 cruisers A nice break from the norm.
But you do make some good points about the the OMS <--> Tama rodeo and lack of rewards for plexing. I used to see plexing as a means of getting fights, back when FOOM used to be active in the plexing scene. Since they left, plexing has been a one-sided story so most of us lost interest for the most part. I've noticed Dark Rising getting an interested in plexing recently, but I suspect its only because of all the Caldari chest-beating.
As for the OMS-Tama pewpew chase, I think the problem is that both sides go to the other side's stronghold with a blob to find a fight. Its always easier for the local group to get double the numbers after some time passes, and they always do. So the attacker brings in a moderate fleet, ganks anything that moves for the better part of an hour, then gets counter-blobbed by a bigger fleet and chased back home, losing some stragglers. Then the cycle repeats But thats really not much different than PVP between any two large neighboring alliances |
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Equium Duo
Joined: 06 Jul 2007 Posts: 2290 Location: INIT. MADH.
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Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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Any more info on the minmatar/amarr struggle??
My corp Gauss-Codazzi is gearing up to enter the fray and fight for the minmatar! So any general intel on the area's would be mostly appreciated.
What are the main systems in the amarr/minmatar area's? (their respective tama/OMS) _________________
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Deja Thoris
Joined: 30 Mar 2007 Posts: 577 Location: Invicta - Lowsec meanie etc.
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Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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| blkmajik wrote: |
So will Invicta be operating as old-fashioned pirates in FW space again any time soon, Thoris? I personally only ran into you guys when you'd leave some bait and try hot dropping a dozen carriers on a bunch of t1 cruisers A nice break from the norm.
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We've decided to only drop a dozen carriers on bc's and up now. We only drop 8-10 carriers on cruisers these days. As to your question, we are operating out of Murethand and have always done so.
I also just wanted to compliment you on your kb, militia kb's used to be a bit of a joke but yours looked surprisingly complete yesterday. |
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Tellenta
Joined: 14 Oct 2007 Posts: 1846 Location: Invicta
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Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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| blkmajik wrote: |
So will Invicta be operating as old-fashioned pirates in FW space again any time soon, Thoris? I personally only ran into you guys when you'd leave some bait and try hot dropping a dozen carriers on a bunch of t1 cruisers A nice break from the norm.
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The hot-dropping is a symptom of the sickness that is blobbing. We've tried sub-caps only with mixed results usually ending with a 2-1 to 4-1 fight on our hands. We need an equalizer from time to time cap ships is just one of them as the nerf has been nanoed. Also Invicta has been strolling around pirating for over a month now if I recall when we received our call to the dark side. |
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Armyofme

Joined: 24 Jun 2007 Posts: 409 Location: TDG
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Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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deja i cant belive you forgot about athi  _________________
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Tellenta
Joined: 14 Oct 2007 Posts: 1846 Location: Invicta
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Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Armyofme wrote: | deja i cant belive you forgot about athi  |
You're in the same alliance as us, I would think that is kinda implied... also, athi who? |
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