Provi / Catch Skirmishes

[Sapphrine]

Didn't really conform to any other thread I can see so starting a new one.
(if i missed one then sorry)

U'K were asked by -a- to deploy a tower somewhere in Northern catch. When u'k stuck up towers last time the provi bloc came and hit them and -a- came and enjoyed shooting them. U'K like the opportunity to shoot provi bloc outside their comfort zone so it was all good. A medium domi tower was thrown up in GMLH and the provi bloc promptly reinforced it. Timer was set for Sunday 16:58, everyone was happy, let the games commence

Couple hours before, u'k form up, support ships a plenty and plenty of dictors and HIC's, c. 50 in fleet. -a- comms established, its decided -a- will be coming in BS and are expecting 50ish in numbers also. 30mins before timer we get reports of two 60ish strong enemy forces in provi and little cva involvement. Things start to look promising for a nice fight Last minute rally means that as the first enemy enter system, combined u'k / -a- fleet is about 100-110.

Provi bloc force is lead by -7- it seems, they hold half their fleet out of system and they move a BS heavy group to about 50km off the tower. Guns go to work munching support and create us some wrecks, As -a- enter 2j-wjy u'k drop two dictor bubbles on main enemy group. As -a- enter system second provi group enter local and land firmly in the bubbles. -a- warp to sniper range, u'k move out of shield and fight is joined. Fight will last about an hour.

Enemy forces are largely held in bubbles and have a limited support contingent. KB indicate Provi bloc had 88 bs in their fleet and as their support came in somewhat spread we were able to deal with their interceptors and bubblers quickly leaving -a- largely free reign on enemy force at range. U'K took heavy loses early on as enemy force was quite concentrated, -a- moved snipe spot 15mins in, u'k regrouped at range and started to move around grid hitting enemy ships on the perifory out of remote rep range. Enemy managed to move a group of ravens and rokhs to a range spot which were also quickly bubbled. Whilst a few 10sec windows occured where there were no bubbles on provi bloc, they spent most of the fight under bubbles and suffering for it.

End results:
http://www.a-kills.com/related.php?id=237655
U'k kb and -7- are private so -a- kb gives best indication of fleet sizes. U'K / -a- fleet grew by 15% during the course of the fight as people logged on and rushed over. A number of u'k dictor / hic pilots reshipped during the fight and came back.

u'k lost 8 dictors, 5 hics, 5 hac, 2 recons, 2 ceptors and 9 other support
-a- lost 1 bs, 9 dictors, 2 recons, 1 hac, 1 ceptor
Provi bloc lost 81 bs, 1 dic, 2 hic, 4 hac, 3 recons, 9 ceptors, 42 other support

Annoyingly the POS was left alive so we had to rep it.
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[Calgus]

ah, i remember loike talking bout this roam but i had to go sleep half an hour before it started (bloody university early starts). Sounds like I missed out on some fun fun
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Tanks are pretty cool

[Hardin]

TBH hitting a UK POS that close to -A- space on prime time Sunday evening is not wise especially when UK are simply operating as a wing of -A- atm.

This is not the first time UK have tried to pull this 'O hai -A- we will bait CVA for you, look at us Evil Thug, look at us!' stunt

Last time they played the game we put a proper fleet together (+400 members) and made sure that if -A- did come to play they would have had to do it properly. In the end they sent in a sniper fleet - they got some kills we got some kills and the UK POS died.

Of course if we do things properly, as we did when we blew up the UK POSes last time, we are accused of 'disproportionate force' and 'Proviblob'.

If we send a small fleet in UK will call in their -A- buddies, the fleet will get slaughtered and Butter Dog will run to CAOD proclaiming UK's leetness... If we send in a full scale fleet then Butter Dog will simply claim the POS wasn't important anyway and 'heh all CVA can do is blob'.

TBH what should have happened yesterday was that the POS should have been left alone. Then at some point of our choosing an ad hoc Cap Op should have been called and knocked shields off again. Then we should have let -A- and UK waste their time waiting for an attack to finish it off. Rinse and repeat ad infinitum until -A- grow fed up with UK calling wolf on their POSes or get distracted by some other conflict. Boring - but at least then we wouldn't have to read numerous threads about how clever UK are.

As it happens CVA was not leading the fleet yesterday and the FC made another call. Fair play to him. This is after all a game of internet spaceships and if people want to use them to attack bait POSes next to -A-space in -A- prime time then that is up to them. At the very least it is a harsh lesson in the realities of EVE combat!

Quite clearly UK feel pleased with themselves which is demonstrated by the fact that they have now started three threads (on CAOD, Intergalactic Summit and now on here) about an inconsequential (in the larger scheme of things) skirmish in Catch.

To be fair to Butter Dog his report on CAOD was actually quite interesting to read this time but God knows how many threads we will have to wade through if UK actually achieve something more significant than killing a bunch of battleships with -A- help!
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[Kyguard]

Hardin, most of eve stopped taking a word he said seriously a long time ago. You should do the same
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[Sapphrine]

hardin, this forum is meant to be constructive and informative and not full of smack. This thread does that. That others stuck up CAOD and IGS posts I wasn't aware of but *shrug*

Information wise, -a- wanted some fun, as stated. We were more than happy to oblige. That some of the provi bloc were kind enough to oblige was greatly appreciated and led to a good fight. Sure Provi bloc lost but even if they'd won, it would still have been a fun fight.

The rest of your post content can be discussed on CAOD etc where it belongs.
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[Sith8]

Aww come on Hardin, everyone and his mom calls in back up from their buddies these days, I cant remember the time when an alliance went up against each other 1v1.. and to be fair to Butter Dog Provi forces had like 3 alliances against what they presumed to be just UK.

Anyways its always a pleasure to fight you guys, win or lose.

[xBlood]

'This is not the first time UK have tried to pull this 'O hai -A- we will bait CVA for you, look at us Evil Thug, look at us!' stunt '

Hardin, you clearly do not understand the aim and the circumstances around that POS being set up.

This is the background (in convo to a UK dude)

Loike > considering the last time a tower was erected in CVA space we had an absolutely awesome fight
Loike > i was wondering whether it would be possible to have another erected
Loike > I will pay for tower

Having an AAA tower would be far too obvious, so this was the main way to get a reliable fight - something the providence bloc are usually good at.

We wanted a fight, UK wanted a fight. Luckily some of your allies saw it a different way than you do...your view seems to be..well..a little boring.

You seem to think that UK are spamming everywhere with it. I see it as a breath of fresh air from the shit that is usually speweled (spelling?) all over CAOD/summit. To have battle reports of fights is a pleasant change, NOT a burden which you seem to think it is. While the fight itself was one sided, there was some quite detailed planning behind the scenes which was fun as well.

On the fight itself...it was going to go the way it did from the moment myself and sel decided to roll with fleet bs. It was just a matter of how many we could kill before we ran out of dictors UK were fantastic with bubbling the hostiles at the right times in the right places, as well as being fully willing to get this fight.

The hostile fleet commander made...many...many errors. I'm not complaining that he did...it netted us many, many more kills, but well...as you said Hardin..a painful lesson. I'm still suprised that after having 70ish battleships 40km off the pos for an hour...the pos was still alive, considering all our BS were far too far out to be hit. See you around o7

[Hardin]

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[Bacchanalian]

I think the world is turning on its head. I find myself agreeing with Hardin.
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[Phreeze]

This thread has someone managed to become as awful as the Delve threads in the space of just one page.

Anywho, for an actually battle report, Razor brought another "We are bored" gang down to play with the Provi folks.

I missed it due to a poorly timed nap, but looked like it was fun for both sides.

RZR KB: http://www.eve-razor.com/killboard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=159547
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If we can hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate.

[Ernest Graefenberg]

Opposition looks much slimmer than it was at the time, since none of us were tackled. We just basically traded insta-pops for a few seconds, danced a bit and left. Should have gone for more, but seeing another gang coming in for backup ontop of alright being short 2:1 kind of made me want to leave.

The non-BS losses are all from a support gang that was out before us and baited for us, apparently some of them decided to aggro while sitting on the Kari gate at 0.

EvE players.

[Algey]

Hardin, three posts can be expected (actually it was 4, Lilan put some horrid post on IGS that was locked for being incomprehensible). As with any roleplay alliance IGS would be the main forum that we would use to discuss giving the slavers a fun poke with a stick. Many of our members only use that forum.

Hobos is a corp full of forum trolls, so you're going to see COAD posts, and interestingly the COAD thread was far better and less shitpost filled than this thread or the IGS thread.

Finally a lot of people only read this forum as usually it is about battle reports, and even though we're a small side part of the "real" wars, I don't think posts just have to be about goons / BobKenBobKenWhoever all the time.

Are UK a little pleased with themselves, er probably yes. However lets be honest we've been practically impotent for a long time in terms of smashing large fleets. We're 10% of the Providence community in size, and you yourself have kept saying that we need to change tactics if we're going to do anything.

Guess what, we followed your advice.
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[Hardin]

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