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Plave



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There shouldn't be insurance for self destruction at all, it's quite bizarre.

I'd never self destruct a ship going down, hey, if you got me you got me, enjoy your loots and mail.
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Eleese



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Out of curiosity who self destructed there dread?
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Kaylana Syi
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well after considering the insurance vs s/d issue again and playing devils advocate for both sides... it would just be fine to me if they just generated a KM and put self destruction as the final blow. Wouldn't even need to curb insurance payouts.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

why give them the payout, denying all loot in exchange for zero insurance payout sounds pretty balanced to me. while they are at it they could drop payout for concord kills too.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We don't need a self-destruct balance discussion here. There are other forums for that, thanks.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cptn Chaos wrote:
why give them the payout, denying all loot in exchange for zero insurance payout sounds pretty balanced to me. while they are at it they could drop payout for concord kills too.


Suggesting removing insurance for concord kills where Kery "likes a suicide gank" Syander can banzor you is pretty brave Razz

Sorry, sorry.......
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kery fails at suiciding
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Kay H.



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tri dd just got off in c-l. Not sure about teh losses.
almost well executed trap from tri. You just missed one dictor bubble in c-l Smile

100+ reds in LXW reported. Friendly DD got fired in LXW.


edit: apereantly every hostile ship got blown up. (or at least most of the ships)

edit 2: we killed 3 carriers from tri while they were trying to cyno out.
Ships which survived our dd got slaughtered on teh BKG side.

Good day for us. Sadly we missed a titan kill
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Lowa [NSN]



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kay H. wrote:
Tri dd just got off in c-l. Not sure about teh losses.
almost well executed trap from tri. You just missed one dictor bubble in c-l Smile

100+ reds in LXW reported. Friendly DD got fired in LXW.


edit: apereantly every hostile ship got blown up. (or at least most of the ships)

edit 2: we killed 3 carriers from tri while they were trying to cyno out.
Ships which survived our dd got slaughtered on teh BKG side.

Good day for us. Sadly we missed a titan kill

I'd say this is fair assesment. We executed and got bitten by timing
(i.e. just the right amount of lag) enough not to hit properly with our DD.
We did get about 20 ships maybe, the rest of hostiles managed to jump
into LXW and load before our fleet did.
Hostiles warped off in LXW, hostile DD went off and killed 99% of our main fleet.
Our Titan warped away just before C-L froze up (w/ 58 ppl in local. Sad )
I initiated warp and about 5 mins later I was away, lag cleared somewhat
and we started cynoing back to 4DTQ but 3 or our carriers (and one MS) where
still frozen on the LXW-gate and died. MS jumped out safely in the end.
Few survivors in LXW where killed without seeing anything.

Shit happens its as easy as that, you roll the dice and hope for the best.
Maybe next time we are the ones that roll double sixes. I hope. Very Happy

Edit: TRI board says 51 losses for DD. Probably still counting and I have
no idea about INSRG as their KB is down preventing looking and posting.


Cheers,
Lowa
Edit: spellig might be off as Im a little drunk
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Six Strangelove



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Morsus Mihi DD that was lit off against TRI support fleet was, to use the bowling term, a strike.

I understand there was the usual gridloading problems, lag, et al, but whatever the cause, Morsus Mihi played the superior hand.

I'd be able to give a first hand account, but I'm still scrambling to replace the 'Pest I lost over the weekend to POS guns. Yarrrr!

But yeah, confirmed. Good shootin'.
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Thargat



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I actually managed to load grid with my archon (after 10min re-log) and tried to help various cappilots with invites and captransfer (for the jump out).
A bit of confusion ensued when the hostile fleet (which was supposed to be DDd jumped back in to C-L and started messing around with our capfleet). I got tackled good and the Northern Coalition did a great job with their EW ships to keep the caps that were left on the gate from spidertanking. All in all a welp day tho Confused
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4S Vuk Lau



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My report from CAOD

Well I will give short report from my side.

My wife woke me up after my corpmate/RL friend sent me sms to come online.

I logged 1st 2 coverts in LXWN to check the air. Logged Deki right after. Came on TS and heard we are getting DDed (or double DDed, not sure) in C-L. Saw local filling with reds and saw with my BKG gate covert reds uncloaking and killing one of our abaddons on gate (atleast 20 ships started shooting that Abaddon and 10 was already on the gate hugging it so Tri/Ins lagged themselves while jumping to LXWN). Told FC to order all dictors to warp and bubble BKG gate. After I saw 1st two bubbles I warped Deki in. The moment I warped in i started pressing F1 as mad. Didnt load ANYTHING, not even gate. After damage notification message I ordered everyone to come and finish the job and warped Deki to POS. Loaded tower 30 minutes after o.O.

GJ CCP Very Happy
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Wesley Baird



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 2:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lowa [NSN] wrote:
Our Titan warped away just before C-L froze up (w/ 58 ppl in local.


When I hit the cyno, there were 125 in local....ug...
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

4S Vuk Lau wrote:
stuff


If you are a mm diplomat, then i love your sig. Laughing
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Sexy Hoe



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tri just DDd a ATF fleet lulz! GJ

Wasnt there to watch (unfortunatly!?) so I'll wait for a report from Tri or friends lol
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