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Helicity



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd still like to see a conscious effort from CCP towards reducing the size of an empire an alliance can create in nullsec with X players.

I feel that many smaller empires would be more fun than 3-4 giant power blocs.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But then you would just have powerblocks with 20 small alliances rather than 10 larger ones.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[CEI]Fred0 wrote:

Also Viper is a fucking idiot trying to ride the tails of Shadoos greatness. When it comes to the second Shrike death in MAX there's a few people that masterminded it together. Kusotarre (NC) and Shadoo (PL) being the two primary guys. Kuso is a fucking diamond that shows up for the big ones and makes sure we win the ones that count.


You must be retarded. I didn't say I had anything to do with Shrike in Obe. Adj has been chestbeating about that being "his kill" since an hour after it happened, so maybe you should sort out your ex-dick suckers who jumped ship at the first chance to get the fuck away from your terrible alliance. You can ask Vily how PL got involved both times in E-O however, because it had nothing to do with Shadoo being on jabber and everything to do with what was going on between Vily, Shadoo and myself on MSN.

Moreso, Shadoo isn't as great as you retards think he was. He was a mediocre FC at best and only really stood out because he could micromanage 8 accounts while screaming mostly incomprehensible bullshit on TS with his kids yelling in the background. He effectively killed PL's EUTZ by not allowing anyone else to FC while he was around and after he ragequit nobody's been able to fill the void. Now he sits around, plays hon, and posts retarded shit on leadership forums (but then again, that's 90% of what PL does now anyway).
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

he mad
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Viper Shizzle wrote:
[CEI]Fred0 wrote:

Also Viper is a fucking idiot trying to ride the tails of Shadoos greatness. When it comes to the second Shrike death in MAX there's a few people that masterminded it together. Kusotarre (NC) and Shadoo (PL) being the two primary guys. Kuso is a fucking diamond that shows up for the big ones and makes sure we win the ones that count.


You must be retarded. I didn't say I had anything to do with Shrike in Obe. Adj has been chestbeating about that being "his kill" since an hour after it happened, so maybe you should sort our your ex-dick suckers who jumped ship at the first chance to get the fuck away from your terrible alliance. You can ask Vily how PL got involved both times in E-O however, because it had nothing to do with Shadoo being on jabber and everything to do with what was going on between Vily, Shadoo and myself on MSN.

Moreso, Shadoo isn't as great as you retards think he was. He was a mediocre FC at best and only really stood out because he could micromanage 8 accounts while screaming mostly incomprehensible bullshit on TS with his kids yelling in the background. He effectively killed PL's EUTZ by not allowing anyone else to FC while he was around and after he ragequit nobody's been able to fill the void. Now he sits around, plays hon, and posts retarded shit on leadership forums (but then again, that's 90% of what PL does now anyway).


Quoting this because i find both of you hilarious.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Viper Shizzle wrote:
[CEI]Fred0 wrote:

Also Viper is a fucking idiot trying to ride the tails of Shadoos greatness. When it comes to the second Shrike death in MAX there's a few people that masterminded it together. Kusotarre (NC) and Shadoo (PL) being the two primary guys. Kuso is a fucking diamond that shows up for the big ones and makes sure we win the ones that count.


You must be retarded. I didn't say I had anything to do with Shrike in Obe. Adj has been chestbeating about that being "his kill" since an hour after it happened, so maybe you should sort our your ex-dick suckers who jumped ship at the first chance to get the fuck away from your terrible alliance. You can ask Vily how PL got involved both times in E-O however, because it had nothing to do with Shadoo being on jabber and everything to do with what was going on between Vily, Shadoo and myself on MSN.

Moreso, Shadoo isn't as great as you retards think he was. He was a mediocre FC at best and only really stood out because he could micromanage 8 accounts while screaming mostly incomprehensible bullshit on TS with his kids yelling in the background. He effectively killed PL's EUTZ by not allowing anyone else to FC while he was around and after he ragequit nobody's been able to fill the void. Now he sits around, plays hon, and posts retarded shit on leadership forums (but then again, that's 90% of what PL does now anyway).

u mad?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SO MAD

I fucked up the dialogue in ME2 so I have to go back to a previous save to fuck miranda ffffffffffff
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Viper Shizzle wrote:
SO MAD

I fucked up the dialogue in ME2 so I have to go back to a previous save to fuck miranda ffffffffffff


Rolling with a fem Shep FTL Sad

(Though apparently it would be doable with a save game editor and temporary gender change to activate the romance Razz )
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Helicity wrote:
I'd still like to see a conscious effort from CCP towards reducing the size of an empire an alliance can create in nullsec with X players.

I feel that many smaller empires would be more fun than 3-4 giant power blocs.


Pretty easily done if they wanted to do it. Administrative fees for sov-related upkeep, alliance membership, and alliance relations (setting other alliances blue etc) that scale as O(N^2) or higher instead of linearly. Depending on the baseline fees and scaling chosen, large alliances or large # of players involved in NAPs/blue relations would be a thing of the past.

Players could try to maintain these things via metagame, but supposed allies being seen as neutral in-game would lead to too many incidents when you're talking about thousands and thousands of pilots, for that to be feasible.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow Fred0, what a chauvinist fool you are.
Then again, that's nothing unusual coming from you.

It's amazing, it has been what... two years now give or take a couple months. Yet you have not found anything since then to beat your chest about, huh.


Bottom line is there is to many people to list, and because of that much fun was had.

Thanks.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Helicity wrote:
I'd still like to see a conscious effort from CCP towards reducing the size of an empire an alliance can create in nullsec with X players..


In the lead-up to Dominion that's exactly what they said they were trying to do. Sov fee/system was originally going to scale up with the number of systems held. A compensation for this was supposed to be the system upgrades, which allowed more (peoplemakingisk) concentrated into a system than before. So players could support a larger entity from small volume of space and, thanks to system-fee exponential scaling, were strongly encouraged to do so.

They (Abathur/Greyscale?) re-thought this, perhaps after people pointed out the likely appearance of GoonswarmPartXV-esque work-arounds, and implemented the flat charge/system currently in place. I don't recall the exponential system-fee model hitting public Sisi.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The more systems you control the better they are while the cost increases exponentially. Set the sweet spot at XX systems and should reduce alliance sizes rapidly since they wouldn't need more than XX systems to support everyone in their alliance.



Still wouldn't stop coalitions. Just put on a tax for every alliance/corp on your blue list or something.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

+ 10 days per index level upgrade per blue

Problem solved?

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then everyone would just give their allies -10 standings and switch to NRSI.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Helicity wrote:
I'd still like to see a conscious effort from CCP towards reducing the size of an empire an alliance can create in nullsec with X players.

I feel that many smaller empires would be more fun than 3-4 giant power blocs.

This is about as carefully thought out as the dude who suggested people not be able to set standings on anyone. You're terrible if you can't see how it would change nothing significant while inconveniencing many.
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