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xBlood



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:44 pm    Post subject: Venal and area Reply with quote

Seems rebellion tried moving into 6nj today, White Noise/XIX killed a fair few:

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=5731029
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James Grand



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PostPosted: Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whose Anshar was that? Rebellion alt?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isn't Rebellion based somewhere down South? What are they doing moving all the way up to Venal?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Verite Rendition wrote:
Isn't Rebellion based somewhere down South? What are they doing moving all the way up to Venal?


hello there, you seem to be out of the loop

delve is IT's,
goons is kartoons
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Verite Rendition wrote:
Isn't Rebellion based somewhere down South? What are they doing moving all the way up to Venal?


Losing caps?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Graalum wrote:
Verite Rendition wrote:
Isn't Rebellion based somewhere down South? What are they doing moving all the way up to Venal?


hello there, you seem to be out of the loop

delve is IT's,
goons is kartoons
I wasn't aware Rebellion belonged to Goonfleet.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Verite Rendition wrote:
Graalum wrote:
Verite Rendition wrote:
Isn't Rebellion based somewhere down South? What are they doing moving all the way up to Venal?


hello there, you seem to be out of the loop

delve is IT's,
goons is kartoons
I wasn't aware Rebellion belonged to Goonfleet.
I think the point he is making is that Rebellion is in a bit of a tight spot down south, so they may have been pressing for an alternative location?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tbh i predict a trouble for NC. Rebellion was only alliance in Goon block that actually had clue about fighting.

GL to them
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Torshin



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the NC is blue to rebellion
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

im pulling back everything i said... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

James Grand wrote:
Whose Anshar was that? Rebellion alt?


Well, considering the Dark Blood modules I'd guess its a southern Anshar, so ye - Rebellion most likely.
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RAWR Vuk Lau



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey You wrote:
Tbh i predict a trouble for NC. Rebellion was only alliance in Goon block that actually had clue about fighting.

GL to them


GL to NC or GL to Rebellion?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WN and XIX went for some tower in Venal, probably Technetium and NC formed a fleet that cynoed into Y-4C on the sole gate in the system.

WN/XIX was reported landing on gate on other side with a heavy bs fleet. They jumped through into us with us having fighters from about a dozen carriers at a pos and all our bs at 0.

A quick bout of slaughter before the hostiles got out of our range. We had closer range than they did which let them hit us at 100kms without too much problems of their own.

We warped off as we started losing some ships and regrouped. They warped around a bit before they went after the unmanned Dark Blood Medium. NC FC started providing warpins on the hostiles from a covops and we warped in, shot a few, warped out etcetera.

We continued doing this and WN/XIX worked admirably well at depositing themselves at 100k from our warpins all the time. Our support cleared most tackle going for us but we didn't have much of our own so for awhile the losses were pretty minimal on both sides with NC doing a bit better.

During one of our on-grid fights, they warped out all apart from a single Sabre about 300km off our main blob. We got warpin on him and warp there. He gets away and we just see how 5-6 hostiles land at a spot 200km off of us, between us and our former pos. We immedieatly warp back and get one of them tackled. We start killing him and suddenly 6-7 more of them land right on top of us. They get tackled (I even bump one to keep him from warping in my Guardian) and murdered. We warp out and back in again immedieatly and cap another few bs kills and the air seems to go out of the ruskies.

We warp back out and see them leave local. Deciding to rep up the tower instead of hunting after them we go for repping...

KB stats are still inactual but it seems like NC won pretty soundly in terms of ship kills and strategic value.

Barely any lag even with brackets on, no gridload or anything.. Local never topped out over 150 though so shouldn't be too surprised. About 60 hostiles and about 70-80 NC from what I figured.

http://www.kb.wn-alliance.com/?a=home
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really fun lagless old school fleet fighting.

To add to what Ladel said: XIX have been knocking around Venal lately with big fleets and flying with WN. They'd reinforced two of our towers in 6NJ & Y-4 (adjacent systems) which came out after DT. For the first (Chromium) we were heavily outnumbered so had to let it fall but by the second (Tech) we had enough to set up on the gate between 6NJ & Y-4 with our mostly close range bs that their sniper fleet needed to come through. At this point we were down about 60 to 80 with maybe 5 of our guys in carriers assigning fighters. To begin with it went well as XIX/WN burned off the gate in a pretty haphazard way but once they got range and regrouped they got their focus on well, jammed our logis well and took out 4 of our scorps in less than a minute (EW ain't dead despite what people say). So we gtfo to our deathstar and WN/XIX went to shoot our medium (Embarassed ) tower which was still mostly incapped ( Embarassed ) and unmanned ( Embarassed ).

For over an hour we then performed hit-and-run warpins on their two fleets as they tried to shoot the pos. For both sides it was a case of losing the odd guy that wasn't aligned/didn't warp out fast enough/got bumped/didn't pay attention/etc... I don't think either side really did better through most of this, kills were very even, but it was intense (and 100% lagless). After a while we bridged in reinforcements so our fleet rose to 80 (and eventually 90 near the end) while attrition took WN/XIX to more like 70. Our fighter assigning proved pretty counter productive since they didn't follow our fleet around on grid too well and we had groups of fighters that were just sitting there motionless sometimes being attacked by solo frigates or an entire hostile fleet.

Then we had a series of lucky warpins combined with their fleet discipline appearing to fall off a cliff. The one where we and part of the XIX(?) fleet happened to warp on a sabre at zero only netted us 3 bs kills I think (we didn't bubble so some got away) but there was also a very good bubble on the WN fleet just before that and a few other stragglers caught in quick succession all of which really depleted WN/XIX's strength so they decided to call it a day.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RAWR Vuk Lau wrote:
Hey You wrote:
Tbh i predict a trouble for NC. Rebellion was only alliance in Goon block that actually had clue about fighting.

GL to them


GL to NC or GL to Rebellion?


It was ment as a GL to Rebellion while i was thinking they would be neutral to anyone and actually enjoy pew pew Venal can provide.

Then i seen they are blue to NC and i take it all back...

Now would be Lame instead of GL.

Fact still is that they did way better then Goons and Zaf during this last long and hard siege of Delve that lasted months and costed us hell of a lot of resources.

So in a way that is also good news for NC to have them blue...
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