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Xen
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Be unhappy, we are not attacking CVA or attempting to retake UNITY.
My opinion:
Kicking an RP enemy while his pants are around his ankles is the height of lameness. Contrary to popular belief, we do not take EVE so seriously that we are desperate to win at any costs, we play for fun and "good fights" and without CVA knocking around, our game is poorer.
I hope that they get everything back, then we can go kill them properly.
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tasmanian
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| The Crushah wrote: | Even if CVA was taken down without a hack, I wouldnt be surrprised if other alliances step up and help them rebuild their soverignty.
I always thought that CVA had an interesting relationship with Goons and AAA. They shoot each other purely for sport. Its like playing tackle football with your friends, you beat the shit out of each other then head down to the bar and get plastered together. |
Doesnt really matter all that much if they get help. They wont get sov 3 before dominion hits which is what really matters. I foresee a lot of hot drops incoming. Not to mention no more faggy jump bridging. |
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Celada1
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| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Garr Anders wrote: | | Celada1 wrote: | | or they just reset that part of space to 2 days ago |
Let's say they actually can do parially database re-rolls.
You're really willing to have CCP mess around with it ?
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I am 99% sure they can do this, heck they can revert clone loss's, sp loss's ship loss's to whats different here?
And yes i would let ccp mess with it.
| Cippalippus wrote: | | Bacchanalian wrote: | | Amantus wrote: | | If U'K aren't taking back Unity Station right the hell now I am going to be very unhappy. |
U'K are, ironically, AAA pets/allies last I checked. AAA is the group apparently protecting Providence at the moment, so it seems U'K find themselves painted into a corner. |
Indeed, their pet status won't let them move a finger. Ironically enough CVA is the last thing keeping AAA together since, with their death, the first enemies in their timezone would be Mostly Harmless in Pure Blind or Solar Fleet in Cache. More than 8 regions away.
For these reasons AAA will certainly defend CVA space, and that's a good thing since CVA are the only "true" RP alliance. U'K will probably cooperate with AAA in defending CVA space. |
Christ cippa you could atleast put some more effort in your trolling. How far is it from hed to querios?
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Cippalippus
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I said in their timezone.
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Celada1
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| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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USA goes to sleep the ruskies get up, the zone in between can be full of fights.
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Xen
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| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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Well, theres a couple of hostiles in Curse pretty much 24/7. Theres always still the rest of provibloc (which ill admit would be pretty scuppered without CVA's leadership).
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Xennith [UNITY]
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Hardin
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OFFICIAL CVA STATEMENT
I can confirm that CVA was folded and yes we are almost 100% sure it is an account hack for several reasons
1) We have contacted the relevant player out of game (we have 'real life' contact with him) and he is denying that he did this.
2) The account owner is late US TZ - the disbandment and robbery occurred in early Euro-TZ
3) When the 'hacker' logged in he was only in the basic channels and none of the usual channels that this member is in, indicating that he logged in from a different EVE client.
Of course he could be lieing to us but the member in question is, as far as we were aware, a loyal member of the executor corp and the CVA for over three years. There was no indication what-so-ever that he was in any way disillusioned with our mission and is indeed one of our more active and effective PvPers.
We do not believe that he would have done this. However, as with Haargoth - you can never be definitively sure - so yes - at this stage it is possible that it is simply a betrayal.
Nevertheless we are of the firm belief that this has to be a hack and we have asked CCP to investigate. No doubt all will be revealed in due course.
Obviously it sucks to be us right now and there is no doubt that this is going to cause disruption. However CVA is nothing if not resilient and we will prevail despite the obstacles that will probably be thrown in our way...
Amarr Victor
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Ryas Nia
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| Xen wrote: | Be unhappy, we are not attacking CVA or attempting to retake UNITY.
My opinion:
Kicking an RP enemy while his pants are around his ankles is the height of lameness. Contrary to popular belief, we do not take EVE so seriously that we are desperate to win at any costs, we play for fun and "good fights" and without CVA knocking around, our game is poorer.
I hope that they get everything back, then we can go kill them properly. |
while i get and like this attitude, i think your making an error we do not know that it was a hacker, it could be the real deal and in the amount of time that this information comes out you could lose a very valuable opportunity to gain a serious foot hold back into provi.
GL what ever you do, but i suggest going on the offensive until more information is confirmed by either the people that did this or CCP.
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| High Sierra wrote: | | HERE! YOU'VE TAKEN EVERYTHING ELSE! TAKE MY PANTS! |
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leboe
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| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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| or get fights in the middle of the rush to providence, easy enough for aaa |
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OrangeAfroMan
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| Mavolio wrote: | they prob have some GM tool to drop towers for an alliance and set sov shouldn't take them more than a d/t to put back if they get a few people working on it.
What might take longer is if people start doing stuff to get kills that woudln't have been possible if SoV hadn't droped making their space easier to attack. |
Providence is on fire >:]
I am on a quick recovery break before I go back in... its just like there's suddenly a room full of beautiful naked women in your house.... gotta pace yourself
Also, CVA director contacted OrDeR asking us to not shoot them, lolololol
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Hardin
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| Hardin wrote: | OFFICIAL CVA STATEMENT
I can confirm that CVA was folded and yes we are almost 100% sure it is an account hack for several reasons
1) We have contacted the relevant player out of game (we have 'real life' contact with him) and he is denying that he did this.
2) The account owner is late US TZ - the disbandment and robbery occurred in early Euro-TZ
3) When the 'hacker' logged in he was only in the basic channels and none of the usual channels that this member is in, indicating that he logged in from a different EVE client.
Of course he could be lieing to us but the member in question is, as far as we were aware, a loyal member of the executor corp and the CVA for over three years. There was no indication what-so-ever that he was in any way disillusioned with our mission and is indeed one of our more active and effective PvPers.
We do not believe that he would have done this. However, as with Haargoth - you can never be definitively sure - so yes - at this stage it is possible that it is simply a betrayal.
Nevertheless we are of the firm belief that this has to be a hack and we have asked CCP to investigate. No doubt all will be revealed in due course.
Obviously it sucks to be us right now and there is no doubt that this is going to cause disruption. However CVA is nothing if not resilient and we will prevail despite the obstacles that will probably be thrown in our way...
Amarr Victor |
On a personal note: I am not particularly active within the CVA at the moment and simply reactivated my account to help with some of the 'mess' caused by this 'disbandment'.
Whether you love us or hate us the CVA is the one 0.0 alliance that has tried to do something different in null sec.
We were the first alliance to open up our space to all comers - giving many individuals, corps and alliances their first taste of 0.0. In the process we have made Provi not only the most populated 0.0 region - but also the most fun from a PvP standpoint.
It saddens me to think that my spirtual home in EVE has been brought low not by the terrorist Minnies, Jade Constantine's anarchists, or by Evil Thug and his minions, but to some twunt who gets his kicks hacking into other people's accounts and then fecking them over.
Of course, the 'spirit' as promoted by CCP teaches us to expect such things and HTFU - so I guess that is what we will do...
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Bacchanalian
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| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Hardin wrote: |
Obviously it sucks to be us right now and there is no doubt that this is going to cause disruption. However CVA is nothing if not resilient and we will prevail despite the obstacles that will probably be thrown in our way...
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No offense meant, Hardin, but the real reasons the alliance formerly known as CVA will prevail has more to do with the fact that no one with the resources, numbers, and drive to take Providence out from under you now has the inclination to do so. That is not to say TAFKACVA isn't resilient--it's to say that their resilience is irrelevant in this situation.
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Xen
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| Ryas Nia wrote: |
while i get and like this attitude, i think your making an error we do not know that it was a hacker, it could be the real deal and in the amount of time that this information comes out you could lose a very valuable opportunity to gain a serious foot hold back into provi. |
Perhaps so, but there are three important factors here, the first is that I (im speaking for myself here, theres major leadership discussions going on of which i am not a part) would rather be the kind of guy who waits and potentially misses out on some easy kills than the kind of guy who steams in and ends up looking like a complete bastard. The second is that as we have often said, we dont want providence. I would rather have CVA there (no, we really did mean that). The third of course is that the jammers and bridges dont drop for another few hours.
Ultimatly it comes down to a question of how seriously you take EVE and how you regard the people you shoot. In our position im sure that goons would already be towerspamming.
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Cistral
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Go go Team Minmatar!
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| Ryas Nia wrote: | | Xen wrote: | Be unhappy, we are not attacking CVA or attempting to retake UNITY.
My opinion:
Kicking an RP enemy while his pants are around his ankles is the height of lameness. Contrary to popular belief, we do not take EVE so seriously that we are desperate to win at any costs, we play for fun and "good fights" and without CVA knocking around, our game is poorer.
I hope that they get everything back, then we can go kill them properly. |
while i get and like this attitude, i think your making an error we do not know that it was a hacker, it could be the real deal and in the amount of time that this information comes out you could lose a very valuable opportunity to gain a serious foot hold back into provi.
GL what ever you do, but i suggest going on the offensive until more information is confirmed by either the people that did this or CCP. |
I think you have the right idea.. Opportunity awaits for U'K to take advantage of a possible inside job that has every chance in the world to "not" be a hack.
Just as with BoB it was claimed a hack at first then later turned out to be a ill fated director. Not seizing the moment for what it is "opportunity" could turn out to be a mistake.
U'K taking a system or two in Providence isn't going end CVA or stop them from their come back. If it does turn out to be a real hack you could always eHonor gift the systems back to them if you wish. If it was a infiltration or rogue directior then you now have more opportunity for pewpew.. either way it's win TBH.
Not to take advantage while things are unclear is a mistake.. TBH..
Put your sunglasses on and get to work U'K..  |
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